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I got this 2*8gb ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D50 RGB (DDR4, 3200 16-20-20) but can't find information about Micron f-die. In Ryzen DRAM Calculator I also can't choose Micron f-die. What is it and how well they OC?
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Hi, ThrashZone. Thanks for your reply!Hi,
Seeing typical c16 hynix/ micron timings are 16-18-18-38
I'd say the ones you have aren't all that likely to oc well seeing how loose they are says they are LOW bins so hope you didn't pay much for them
On amd 5k series they might be better than intel because amd does like loose timings but let us know.
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Thanks!Hi,
AMD won't mind the stuff just raise the frequency until gains start to drop or instability starts and that's good to go
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Hi,Thanks!
What timings/settings can you recommend me for 3600MHz? I have little experience with overclocking RAM
Did you mean ZenTimings? I will try itHi,
Ryzen memory app
It does all the work for you.
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Welcome to the Micron horrible default timings club.
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By any chance could you post a screenshot of ZenTimings for your system?
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Ping @The KingYes, sure.
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I don’t even know what timings I can expect for 3200 or 3600 frequencies if I overclock. I have very little experience with overclocking. View attachment 291356
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
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Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
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Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
Yes, sure.
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I don’t even know what timings I can expect for 3200 or 3600 frequencies if I overclock. I have very little experience with overclocking. View attachment 291356
Thank you, I will tryFor some reading you might want to take a look at these
If you really want to OC your RAM the best thing you can do is find examples of overclocks with your kit or people who are familiar with overclocking your kit or with it's IC's. That will help give you a good idea what you can do without having to waste a lot of time testing different settings.
- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-memory-tweaking-overclocking-guide/
- https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md
I tend to go for the quick and easy RAM overclocks because testing and validation takes a lot of time, and I'd rather be doing something else, so I will just suggest an approach to help get you started and try to first see how easy or difficult it may be to simply bump up your frequency before you trim your timings. Perhaps someone experienced with Micron can jump into the thread and give you better advice. My Micron experience is limited to a few ECC kits with a lot of difficulty getting anything stable over DDR4-3200 but trimming timings has been rather easy with a bump in DRAM voltage. For example the horrible example I posted with my current kit can actually be reconfigured to be more like a normal CL16 kit.
prep
action
- Make a bootable usb of passmark memtest86 (the free one should be fine)
- Save your current UEFI/BIOS to a profile called "mydefault"
- This way you can reload your original UEFI/BIOS settings anytime to use your PC until you are done with RAM OC
- Load UEFI/BIOS defaults
- Remove or disable any CPU or RAM overclocking in UEFI/BIOS
- Make sure your memory options are set to AUTO (not XMP or DOCP)
- Set your DRAM voltage to your RAM's XMP preference or 1.35v
- Set your SOC voltage to 1.1v
- Set your DRAM Frequency to your RAM's XMP preference DDR4-3200
- Disable your boot options that point to your disk (you do not want to boot to your OS with unstable memory)
- Save your changes to a new profile in UEFI/BIOS called "baseline"
- Save UEFI/BIOS changes
- Insert your memetest86 usb
- Reboot
- Enter UEFI/BIOS instead of booting from your storage when your pc restarts
- Increase your DRAM frequency up a notch.
- Save UEFI/BIOS changes
- Reboot
- Boot off the USB and let memtest86 complete 1 pass
- Reboot
- Enter UEFI/BIOS instead of booting from your storage when your pc restarts
- if no errors then
- Save UEFI/BIOS changes to a profile "lastsuccess"
- Rinse and repeat steps 3 to 8 until memtest86 starts reporting errors
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Motherboard | MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89) |
Cooling | Phanteks PH-TC14PE |
Memory | Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14 |
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Unfortunately I have never come across any Micron f-Die ICs and google seems to know very little about them. Can't even find any reviews
Unfortunately I have never come across any Micron f-Die ICs and google seems to know very little about them. Can't even find any reviews
3200 16-20-20-20 may not be a good bin for overclocking no idea how something like that would react to increased voltages.
Micron Rev.E and B seems to overclock really well. This is my current daily DR setup with some Micron Rev.E 16GB DR ICs..
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Can easily push this to +4000MT. Sadly not sure if f-die can OC like this.
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
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Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
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Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
Thank you for posting your example. A lot of your settings helped me unlock my Nemix 64GB kit to successfully post and boot to DDR4-3600.Unfortunately I have never come across any Micron f-Die ICs and google seems to know very little about them. Can't even find any reviews
3200 16-20-20-20 may not be a good bin for overclocking no idea how something like that would react to increased voltages.
Micron Rev.E and B seems to overclock really well. This is my current daily DR setup with some Micron Rev.E 16GB DR ICs..
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Processor | AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz |
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Motherboard | MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89) |
Cooling | Phanteks PH-TC14PE |
Memory | Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC) |
Storage | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold |
Keyboard | Redragon Devarajas RGB |
Software | Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a |
These dimms dont have temps sensor but Micron DIMMS are less sensitive to overheating issues in most cases.Thank you for posting your example. A lot of your settings helped me unlock my Nemix 64GB kit to successfully post and boot to DDR4-3600.
I had struggled with this kit for awhile, first trying to get 128GB of it to work (now abandoned effort), then trying to get some better frequency out of it at 64GB.
I was pretty sure my kit was an E-die kit looking up the chip D9ZFV on Microns site.
Here is where I landed, still a lot of testing and tweaking to do.
( I landed my DRAM voltage at 1.38v for now )
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One question I had was how are your DRAM temps at idle and under load at 1.45v?
Try running a memory stability test. Something like TestMEM5 or similar software like in my above post to make sure your OC is stable and you are not getting data corruption.Thanks for the answer! I tried using frequency 3600 with 1.35v and it was as stable as XMP.
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I don't know if these are good timings for the 3600. I hope these are not terrible timings for 3600?
What other safe timings and voltages can I use for the 3600 or maybe for... 3800?
What config can you recommend for testing in TM5 and how long do I need to test?These dimms dont have temps sensor but Micron DIMMS are less sensitive to overheating issues in most cases.
I can run 3933 CL15 @ 1.48V for hours no overheating issues and ambient temps here are close to 40 degress Celius or 104F. Even 1.5 VDIMM gives me no issues with overheating.
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Try running a memory stability test. Something like TestMEM5 or similar software like in my above post to make sure your OC is stable and you are not getting data corruption.
Here is a link and a guide on how to test memory stability.
Memory Testing with TestMem5 TM5 with custom configs
www.overclock.net
System Name | Not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 2TB 980 PRO 2TB Gen4x4 NVMe, 2 x Samsung 2TB 970 EVO Plus Gen3x4 NVMe, AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
Some thoughts I had for your journey.Thanks for the answer! I tried using frequency 3600 with 1.35v and it was as stable as XMP.
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I don't know if these are good timings for the 3600. I hope these are not terrible timings for 3600?
What other safe timings and voltages can I use for the 3600 or maybe for... 3800?
Processor | AMD R7 1700X @ 4100Mhz |
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Motherboard | MSI B450M MORTAR MAX (MS-7B89) |
Cooling | Phanteks PH-TC14PE |
Memory | Crucial Technology 16GB DR (DDR4-3600) - C9BLM:045M:E BL16G36C16U4W.M16FE1 X2 @ CL14 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX480 GTR 8GB @ 1408Mhz (AMD Auto OC) |
Storage | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB |
Display(s) | Acer KG271 1080p @ 81Hz |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex II 750W 80+ Gold |
Keyboard | Redragon Devarajas RGB |
Software | Microsoft Windows 10 (10.0) Professional 64-bit |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/mvvj3a |
I use 1usmus_v3 profile in TM5. The gold standard is 25 cycles. The more RAM you have the longer the test can take.What config can you recommend for testing in TM5 and how long do I need to test?
These dimms dont have temps sensor but Micron DIMMS are less sensitive to overheating issues in most cases.
I can run 3933 CL15 @ 1.48V for hours no overheating issues and ambient temps here are close to 40 degress Celius or 104F. Even 1.5 VDIMM gives me no issues with overheating.
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Try running a memory stability test. Something like TestMEM5 or similar software like in my above post to make sure your OC is stable and you are not getting data corruption.
Here is a link and a guide on how to test memory stability.
Memory Testing with TestMem5 TM5 with custom configs
www.overclock.net
System Name | Not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 2TB 980 PRO 2TB Gen4x4 NVMe, 2 x Samsung 2TB 970 EVO Plus Gen3x4 NVMe, AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
Well nice, that was an easy overclock.I did a test in TestMEM5 (1usmus_v3 profile), there were no errors. I additionally did an hour test in OCCT, result was same.
Sorry for the super late reply.Well nice, that was an easy overclock.
From ZenTimings what do your memory settings look like now?
Perhaps paste them here side by side for comparison?
Be sure to save your overclock settings in a profile in your UEFI/BIOS.
Also do a comparison of your memory performance before and after your overclock. I think AIDA64 had a trial or free edition?
Without trimming your timings after bumping up the frequency it's possible to have worse performance making the frequency overclock not worth the effort.
Before I knew about any guides with AM4 w/ DDR4 overclocking I made a little cheat sheet to visualize the stepping which I use as a guide when increasing frequency and not letting UEFI/BIOS auto select the values. The theory was while scaling frequency if you keep the primary timings (tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tCWL, and tRFC) in nanoseconds consistent the greater likely hood you will be able to successfully post and boot at the higher frequency than if you just let the UEFI/BIOS go AUTO and choose something that might be nonsense. The secondary and tertiary timings don't scale this way so it's not as useful for those.
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The point of the chart is you should be able to compare your before and after timings with ZenTimings and realign in your AUTO configured UEFI/BIOS settings by mapping your CL values as close as possible to your original timings by understanding what those timings were in nanoseconds. Does this make sense? For example CL16@DDR4-3200 = CL18@DDR4-3600
In this way you can save yourself some time and reset tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tCWL, and tRFC all at once manually then retest and validate the overclock isn't producing errors. If you end up throwing errors then you can loosen the timings in reverse order to see which one is giving you trouble. If you don't get errors then great. You can choose to further try and improve timings. This is just how I happen to do it to get a quick overclock working there maybe better ways.
For example here is a visualization of my progress trying to OC my current ram kit now that I was able to finally unlock DDR4-3600 with my kit.
You can see the starting values on the left and the OC values on the right.
In this case I'm trying to improve performance in nanoseconds after increasing the frequency.
The tRDCRD value looks wonky because if the of Micron IC in my ram kit.
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